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General Overseer of the Synagogue
Church Of All Nations, Prophet TB Joshua
is not one who talks with the media
unless it is important. In this latest
interview, he warns politicians not to
derail the nation’s democracy. He spoke
with Tai Anyanwu on the State of the
Nation and the battle ahead. Excerpts...
There are so many troubles in Nigeria today,
problems with insecurity, threats to national
unity and political manoeuvres by rival
political parties. What are your comments
concerning these troubled times in the
country?
It is a normal thing for a country that has
a bright future, God’s promise. A bright
future always attracts persecution,
condemnation and enemies when it’s
realised that the future is bright; you will
see a lot of pressures and threats. The
country is on the path to greatness; it will
compete with any Western nation in the
future and the Western nations know that
Nigeria is going to be a giant. The
greatness will still come but for the
coming generation.
With the turbulence being experienced in
some states of the federation; and the
election just around the corner, how will
things play out?
Elections will not happen in...
Some states because of the frequent
attacks. This could affect between three to
four states. The states would be a no-go
area due to violence and elections would
not take place in those states unless we
move closer to God. We must intensify
our prayers. This is what God has showed
me and you can imagine what would
happen if elections don’t hold in those
states. It would have great implication for
our democracy.
How should we manage it?
We should not allow the politicians to
politicise all the areas of our lives. For
example if you want to enjoy anything,
you have to be part of their party – to get
a job, etc. Unless you are part of their
party, you cannot benefit from things that
should be available to you as a citizen.
Look at electricity, health etc. - they have
politicised everything. Even religion has
been politicised; Christianity has been
politicised. Politicians go to church; the
pulpit is where they campaign now.
Even they go to churches and mosques to
bomb them. These are people in church
who had gone to pray for themselves.
Must everybody become a politician? How
we handle the situation at hand now
matters. If the situation is not well
managed, we will find ourselves
postponing the great Nigeria, meaning we
will not witness it but it would be
witnessed by our children.
Don’t let us politicise every area of our
lives. Let us carefully play our politics
with keen decency because 2015 matters
in the history of Nigeria. It is either we
cross the bridge successfully or it
collapses. A good Nigerian that wants this
greatness should be able to pay whatever
proper price that is needed to be paid to
make this dream of a great Nigeria
possible. If your being in politics will
make this greatness come, then join. From
now to 2015 is a very important period in
the history of Nigeria and if we don’t
manage the situation well, our democracy
would be rubbished.
How do you mean … that our democracy
would be rubbished?
A situation where there would be
lawlessness – lawlessness in the sense that
the law would not be capable of guiding
us because of the pros (for) and cons
(against) as contained in the law. That
would now take so much time which
would lead Nigeria to a discussion table.
Where would you and I be at that time?
What can you say about APC and PDP?
In body we can call it APC and PDP but in
spirit, they are one and the same thing. I
am yet to see the difference. I am looking
forward to seeing the difference.
The president has just suspended Sanusi
Lamido and people are saying he is being
witchhunted because of his revelation on
$20bn missing oil money. What is your take
on this?
There are some agencies that are
technical. CBN is one of the agencies that
we should not play politics with or
politicise. One, the head of the agency
should do away with politics; the
president should also not play politics
with the agency.
With the situation in Nigeria today and the
agitation on 2015, what advice do you have
for politicians not to create more tension in
the polity and what is the way out?
The advice; many of us need to leave
politics while many others need to join, in
order to inject fresh blood. The people
that need to leave politics are not the
common people. This is in order to avert
the disaster that could rubbish our
democracy
The Synagogue is now like a tourist centre;
what’s happening here that is different from
what is happening in other churches?
There is nothing happening here that is
different from other living churches. If
there is any difference, it is the
availability of abundance of anointing to
meet needs. Where there is demand,
there is supply, says the Lord.
